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Post by Bartholomew on Feb 15, 2021 12:56:37 GMT -8
Thank you for your insights Bartholomew. I never thought of the concept of where exactly God was in the hierarchy of satan. But you are right, now that I think of it. There is no contest. He is unleashed for a "season," before he is put in his place. Didn't you once say when the battle is fought and God has won he will return to the right hand of God? How can that be? I get forgiveness and all of that, but to be God's favorite again? Doesn't seem right. Anywho, on with this post. So regarding time. Are you saying in God's realm time is one, but here on our plane we have the three separate, past, present and future? I get so sick of people who 'correct' me and tell me ~~using a hollowed out voice~~ time is one. Because to me, on this plane, it is not. I have memories of "past" lives. Different time, different dress, different technologies, focus, jobs, different in every way to this life and to each lifetime that I remember. So, ~~evil grin~~ can you tell us about the battles that were fought in the heavens? Were there more than one? What was the purposes of such battles. Also, I've heard there are still battles being bought between heavenly beings still to this day. Is that true? Is it the same battles, different times. And lastly, if God is so powerful, why are there battles? Don't know if you can answer these questions. I know you are bound by certain ethics. Laters. When did Bartholomew say anything about battles fought in heaven? He described it as god is unity and satan is division.In our stories and legends of today we find a curious mixture. The one Creative force the true God of the universes is intermingled with the tales, the histories, of those who were known by Earth men as "gods". This has caused much confusion in the world and will no doubt continue to do so.When considering God vs Satan it is good to remember the true God. Remember too the nature of the created worlds both spiritual and physical. The concept of oneness exists in the highest. The concept of divisiveness, at the bottom. This is handily referred to in terms that we humans can easily understand. We manufacture super personalities and give them names. God at the top and Satan at the bottom. And then we put ourselves in the middle and say that we are prone to these two forces. These metaphors suffice until they are no longer needed.
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Post by Bartholomew on Feb 15, 2021 13:02:24 GMT -8
Okay I can accept that, but what about the innocents that are killed in the name of evil rituals? There is no evolution of spirituality for them. They are born, they are tortured, they are murdered. That is a tough one to answer without the possibility offending you. I have an answer but I'm not sure how you'll receive it. So I'll post this first out of respect and courtesy linen. And later they are blessed and given compensation in succeeding lives.
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Post by Yoda on Feb 15, 2021 13:10:35 GMT -8
That is a tough one to answer without the possibility offending you. I have an answer but I'm not sure how you'll receive it. So I'll post this first out of respect and courtesy linen. And later they are blessed and given compensation in succeeding lives. Thanks for popping my bubble But yes, in the short version that is what I was going to say. At least we're aligned.
Having to give the ultimate sacrifice, they in return get compensated very well. As an example, an accelerated development of their true self (soul). By passing rudimentary steps, advance past 'go' and collect $200.
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Post by linen on Feb 15, 2021 15:31:08 GMT -8
That is a tough one to answer without the possibility offending you. I have an answer but I'm not sure how you'll receive it. So I'll post this first out of respect and courtesy linen. Do you want to know how I understand (answer) your question? I know what you are going to say. "It's their path. Their way to a higher spiritual path." But that doesn't make it right what others do to them. When they get back to the other side they can say, "ah yes, I understand." But when they are a little baby being tortured, it just makes me want to puke what they have to endure.
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Post by linen on Feb 15, 2021 15:54:07 GMT -8
So are you saying the heavenly wars were done only in our region of the Universe? Or was this to include (similar) activities on other planets or galaxies as well? Where these gods for our planet alone or many planets? Or galaxies? Or Solar Systems?
Are each one (in the above categories) ruled by a different set of Creators/Gods?
You've given me clarity, I need to read it again to get it all straight. I feel within me that what you say is truth. I don't say that lightly.
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Post by Yoda on Feb 15, 2021 16:19:46 GMT -8
I know it is very hard to swallow. I would say because this suffering, they get a choice of where and what advancement takes them. Instead of taking thousands of life times to evolve, they are advanced up into higher echelons.
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Post by Bartholomew on Feb 15, 2021 16:25:38 GMT -8
Do you want to know how I understand (answer) your question? I know what you are going to say. "It's their path. Their way to a higher spiritual path." But that doesn't make it right what others do to them. When they get back to the other side they can say, "ah yes, I understand." But when they are a little baby being tortured, it just makes me want to puke what they have to endure. There are easier planets to incarnate on but here the opportunities for fast development are attractive. Souls on their own plane do not have personalities as we know them here. They make decisions based on different criteria. They know that the tougher the life the quicker is wisdom gained. And it is wisdom that sets us free from the long cycle. So they search for babies to be born again with.
There are planets where souls go sometimes to rest between incarnations. They do this is heavier spirit bodies but not physical. Our gas giant Saturn is one such. There are billions of human souls in or around that globe busy working to improve and assimilate what was previously gained in physical lives. They put to practice those things which had been theoretical before. It's true. The higher astral plane surrounding Saturn is a wonderful place filled with beauty such as we only dream about here on Earth.
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Post by linen on Feb 16, 2021 12:12:52 GMT -8
Thank you Yoda and James for your consolation.
James, I'm going to one such planet after I do some research in the Library/Records. I need a rest.
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Post by Yoda on Feb 16, 2021 12:44:54 GMT -8
What you also have to remember is that life, in particular here, goes through cycles. Each being better than the previous before it resets to the junk, like we are experiencing now, which we are transitioning out of to a much better one. These particular cycles are shown in the picture. We have been in the age of Pisces, a part of the 'great iron age', the age of lies, deceit, deception, negativity etc. Now we are transitioning into the age of Aquarius, the beginning of the great golden age. Which is the complete opposite of what we are and have gone through. Truth, knowledge, wisdom, love, compassion, health, prosperity, abundance etc for all.
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Post by michaelboryalis on Feb 16, 2021 13:06:09 GMT -8
The Devil is simply you're earthly, adamic nature, which will take you to the morgue.
If fully illuminated with the "Bright and Morning Star" (Rev 22:16), you'll be transformed from terrestrial to celestial - the whole point of Jesus Christ.
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